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		<title>By: Jacksonville</title>
		<link>http://www.thecourt.ca/2007/08/24/a-polygamy-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-121094</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacksonville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martha, I guess a person in Saskatchewan Province doesn't even need to consent to be Polygamists?
Did alot of checking on your story and here is results:
With reference to your story regarding Polygamy in Canada:
Two members of a Mormon splinter group were charged recently with practicing Polygamy in Bountiful, British Columbia, Canada. On has claimed religious persecution by government.

The federal Criminal Code of Canada states:
S. 293. Everyone who
(a) practices or enters into or in any manner agrees or consents to practice
or enter into
(i) any form of polygamy
(ii) any kind of conjugal union with more than one person at the same
time, whether or not it is by law recognized as a binding form of marriage,
or
(b) celebrates, assists or is a party to a rite, ceremony, contract or
consent that purports to sanction a relationship [that is polygamous]
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term
not exceeding five years."
This section is very general, capturing formal and informal arrangements.
It captures cohabitation as well as marriage; and it encompasses
both heterosexual and same sex relationships.

However, that has changed now and Polygamy is legal in at least one Canadian province.  Indeed, two different Attorney Generals of that province and at least four Family Court (Queens Bench) justices have commented and argued in public court cases that a married woman may also have same time conjugal unions.  Don Morgan of the Saskatchewan Party, who is also Don Morgan Attorney General of Saskatchewan and its' Justice Minister has commented that Saskatchewan legislation allows multiple conjugal unions and that persons do not need to formally end a marriage to be legally recognized as having other legal spouses in Saskatchewan. His argument is the same as his predecessor Attorney General.  Basically, Section 51 of Saskatchewan Marital Family property Act states:

"Rights of new spouse
51 Where a person becomes the spouse of a person who has a spouse, the rights
pursuant to this Act of the subsequent spouse are subject to the rights pursuant to
this Act of the prior spouse."

As early as 1999 and again in 2009 different Queens bench judges have ruled that a married woman may also legally have other conjugal partners under the laws of Saskatchewan. They contend that this does not violate the Federal Criminal code that clearly does not allow plural conjugal unions to exist at same time. In both cases Saskatchewan Attorney General representatives appeared to argue in favor of multiple conjugal unions and in both cases the Federal Attorney Generals declined to appear to defend Canada's Polygamy law.

Canada's Immigration rules do not allow potential immigrants to be both married and also claim another spouse, either as a cohabitation spouse or married.

The case of Ariza v. Canada (2007) denied entry to Canada to a Muslim who might have claimed to have a wife in the Philippines and a common law cohabitant wife in Canada concurrently. The summary can be found at canlii.org under Ariza V. canada.
Summary is:

"[8]               Further, as the appellant lives in Canada and has lived in Canada on a continual basis since 1992, and the applicant lives in the Philippines, there is no factual basis upon which to entertain the possibility that this relationship could be saved under a different classification, such as the concept of common-law marriage. The other concept created in the law in 2002 having to do with conjugal partnership is also of no help, as a conjugal relationship needs to be, by definition, an exclusive relationship. It is not open to the appellant to claim that she is in an exclusive relationship with the applicant, where he is still involved in a legal marriage with his first wife."
Now, The persons charged with Polygamy in Bountiful (a different town/ province in Canada)are accused of practicing Polygamy in Canada. On two fronts.  One, having more than one spouse at the same time.  Second, providing formal consent and assistance to the formation of simultaneous conjugal unions as "bishops" of the sect.

One must query why Don Morgan as Justice Minister of Saskatchewan, in a province a short distance away from British Columbia provides unilateral consent and assists with allowing multiple conjugal unions as valid under Saskatchewan law, yet British Columbia Attorney General does not allow Polygamy; are the Attorney Generals reading the same Federal law?

In the cases of Saskatchewan Polygamy, two married women claimed to have legal conjugal relationship with other men while still legally married. Both men denied this and said they just lived in the same house with the married women and hence had the right to not be legal spouses while the women were married to others. They argued they had the constitutional right to not be the spouse of a person that already had a spouse and they be entitled to live under a "shacked up" but not legally the spouse of a married person".  saskatchewan judges declared the women could be the simultaneous conjugal partners of more than one spouse. Don Morgan of the Saskatchewan Party and his constitutional lawyers argued that the women were entitled to have another spouse under Saskatchewan law, even tho they remained married to another. Morgan must believe that citizens do not need to formally end a marriage to take other spouses. In Winik V. Saskatchewan trustee, the Queens bench judge ruled:

"21] With respect to the first issue, the continuing marriage of Maureen Winik would not necessarily have hindered the formation of a common-law relationship with Randy Wilson. The formation of a common-law relationship does not involve the solemnization of a marriage. Rather it requires a mutual intention to enter into a permanent and exclusive matrimonial relationship"

"To constitute a marriage valid at common law, that is, in the absence of a statute otherwise specifically providing, it is not necessary that it should be solemnized in any particular form or with any particular rite or ceremony. All that is required is that there should be an actual and mutual agreement to enter into a matrimonial relation, permanent and exclusive of all others, between parties capable in law of making such a contract, consummated by their cohabitation as man and wife or other mutual assumption openly of marital duties and obligations.” 

"As the formation of a common-law relationship does not require the solemnization of a marriage, there is no risk of violating the criminal sanction against bigamy. The formation of a common-law relationship is not hindered by the existence of a subsisting marriage. Mutual intention of the parties consummated by their conduct, perhaps with an expressive public component, is all that is required for the formation of the relationship."
The judge decided to make formal and legal the subsequent spousal relationship unilaterally ( providing consent and assisting)as follows:

"[40]  Maureen Winik, as the common-law spouse of Randy Wilson at the time of his decease, has standing to challenge the constitutional validity of the relevant provisions of the Act."

Interestingly, the judge may have determined the new spouses had an exclusive and monogamous relationship, despite the fact that Winik was married and the man had also fathered a child with a different women during their cohabitation!
You can read the case and decide for yourself.

The question is, if it is illegal in Canada to  have plural spouses in valid constitutional law, and Don Morgan/and his predecessors and his Saskatchewan party allow same time multiple conjugal unions, why does British Columbia charge Bountiful members who have done no more? Since Osler and Blackmore ( Bountiful) are charged under the Federal Criminal Code Section 293 with having multiple conjugal relations and also performing multiple conjugal relationship consent by sanctioning plural unions, why aren't the Saskatchewan Attorney Generals and Saskatchewan Queens Bench judges also charged with creating these plural conjugal relationships under law and assisting and consenting to them?

It seems apparent that the Bountiful residents, Muslim immigrants and others wishing to practice Polygamy in Canada will need to live in Saskatchewan Canada to have legal Polygamous unions. 

Some other provinces in Canada allow multiple conjugal unions if they occurred in a juisdiction that allows them.  Immigrants must prove their place of origin does allow Polygamy.  Since Saskatchewan Canada allows simultaneous conjugal unions it seems unfair that Muslims and others are persecuted for their Polygamist religious beliefs when it is perfectly legal in parts of Canada. Charge them all or charge none as the saying goes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martha, I guess a person in Saskatchewan Province doesn&#8217;t even need to consent to be Polygamists?<br />
Did alot of checking on your story and here is results:<br />
With reference to your story regarding Polygamy in Canada:<br />
Two members of a Mormon splinter group were charged recently with practicing Polygamy in Bountiful, British Columbia, Canada. On has claimed religious persecution by government.</p>
<p>The federal Criminal Code of Canada states:<br />
S. 293. Everyone who<br />
(a) practices or enters into or in any manner agrees or consents to practice<br />
or enter into<br />
(i) any form of polygamy<br />
(ii) any kind of conjugal union with more than one person at the same<br />
time, whether or not it is by law recognized as a binding form of marriage,<br />
or<br />
(b) celebrates, assists or is a party to a rite, ceremony, contract or<br />
consent that purports to sanction a relationship [that is polygamous]<br />
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term<br />
not exceeding five years.&#8221;<br />
This section is very general, capturing formal and informal arrangements.<br />
It captures cohabitation as well as marriage; and it encompasses<br />
both heterosexual and same sex relationships.</p>
<p>However, that has changed now and Polygamy is legal in at least one Canadian province.  Indeed, two different Attorney Generals of that province and at least four Family Court (Queens Bench) justices have commented and argued in public court cases that a married woman may also have same time conjugal unions.  Don Morgan of the Saskatchewan Party, who is also Don Morgan Attorney General of Saskatchewan and its&#8217; Justice Minister has commented that Saskatchewan legislation allows multiple conjugal unions and that persons do not need to formally end a marriage to be legally recognized as having other legal spouses in Saskatchewan. His argument is the same as his predecessor Attorney General.  Basically, Section 51 of Saskatchewan Marital Family property Act states:</p>
<p>&#8220;Rights of new spouse<br />
51 Where a person becomes the spouse of a person who has a spouse, the rights<br />
pursuant to this Act of the subsequent spouse are subject to the rights pursuant to<br />
this Act of the prior spouse.&#8221;</p>
<p>As early as 1999 and again in 2009 different Queens bench judges have ruled that a married woman may also legally have other conjugal partners under the laws of Saskatchewan. They contend that this does not violate the Federal Criminal code that clearly does not allow plural conjugal unions to exist at same time. In both cases Saskatchewan Attorney General representatives appeared to argue in favor of multiple conjugal unions and in both cases the Federal Attorney Generals declined to appear to defend Canada&#8217;s Polygamy law.</p>
<p>Canada&#8217;s Immigration rules do not allow potential immigrants to be both married and also claim another spouse, either as a cohabitation spouse or married.</p>
<p>The case of Ariza v. Canada (2007) denied entry to Canada to a Muslim who might have claimed to have a wife in the Philippines and a common law cohabitant wife in Canada concurrently. The summary can be found at canlii.org under Ariza V. canada.<br />
Summary is:</p>
<p>&#8220;[8]               Further, as the appellant lives in Canada and has lived in Canada on a continual basis since 1992, and the applicant lives in the Philippines, there is no factual basis upon which to entertain the possibility that this relationship could be saved under a different classification, such as the concept of common-law marriage. The other concept created in the law in 2002 having to do with conjugal partnership is also of no help, as a conjugal relationship needs to be, by definition, an exclusive relationship. It is not open to the appellant to claim that she is in an exclusive relationship with the applicant, where he is still involved in a legal marriage with his first wife.&#8221;<br />
Now, The persons charged with Polygamy in Bountiful (a different town/ province in Canada)are accused of practicing Polygamy in Canada. On two fronts.  One, having more than one spouse at the same time.  Second, providing formal consent and assistance to the formation of simultaneous conjugal unions as &#8220;bishops&#8221; of the sect.</p>
<p>One must query why Don Morgan as Justice Minister of Saskatchewan, in a province a short distance away from British Columbia provides unilateral consent and assists with allowing multiple conjugal unions as valid under Saskatchewan law, yet British Columbia Attorney General does not allow Polygamy; are the Attorney Generals reading the same Federal law?</p>
<p>In the cases of Saskatchewan Polygamy, two married women claimed to have legal conjugal relationship with other men while still legally married. Both men denied this and said they just lived in the same house with the married women and hence had the right to not be legal spouses while the women were married to others. They argued they had the constitutional right to not be the spouse of a person that already had a spouse and they be entitled to live under a &#8220;shacked up&#8221; but not legally the spouse of a married person&#8221;.  saskatchewan judges declared the women could be the simultaneous conjugal partners of more than one spouse. Don Morgan of the Saskatchewan Party and his constitutional lawyers argued that the women were entitled to have another spouse under Saskatchewan law, even tho they remained married to another. Morgan must believe that citizens do not need to formally end a marriage to take other spouses. In Winik V. Saskatchewan trustee, the Queens bench judge ruled:</p>
<p>&#8220;21] With respect to the first issue, the continuing marriage of Maureen Winik would not necessarily have hindered the formation of a common-law relationship with Randy Wilson. The formation of a common-law relationship does not involve the solemnization of a marriage. Rather it requires a mutual intention to enter into a permanent and exclusive matrimonial relationship&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;To constitute a marriage valid at common law, that is, in the absence of a statute otherwise specifically providing, it is not necessary that it should be solemnized in any particular form or with any particular rite or ceremony. All that is required is that there should be an actual and mutual agreement to enter into a matrimonial relation, permanent and exclusive of all others, between parties capable in law of making such a contract, consummated by their cohabitation as man and wife or other mutual assumption openly of marital duties and obligations.” </p>
<p>&#8220;As the formation of a common-law relationship does not require the solemnization of a marriage, there is no risk of violating the criminal sanction against bigamy. The formation of a common-law relationship is not hindered by the existence of a subsisting marriage. Mutual intention of the parties consummated by their conduct, perhaps with an expressive public component, is all that is required for the formation of the relationship.&#8221;<br />
The judge decided to make formal and legal the subsequent spousal relationship unilaterally ( providing consent and assisting)as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;[40]  Maureen Winik, as the common-law spouse of Randy Wilson at the time of his decease, has standing to challenge the constitutional validity of the relevant provisions of the Act.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interestingly, the judge may have determined the new spouses had an exclusive and monogamous relationship, despite the fact that Winik was married and the man had also fathered a child with a different women during their cohabitation!<br />
You can read the case and decide for yourself.</p>
<p>The question is, if it is illegal in Canada to  have plural spouses in valid constitutional law, and Don Morgan/and his predecessors and his Saskatchewan party allow same time multiple conjugal unions, why does British Columbia charge Bountiful members who have done no more? Since Osler and Blackmore ( Bountiful) are charged under the Federal Criminal Code Section 293 with having multiple conjugal relations and also performing multiple conjugal relationship consent by sanctioning plural unions, why aren&#8217;t the Saskatchewan Attorney Generals and Saskatchewan Queens Bench judges also charged with creating these plural conjugal relationships under law and assisting and consenting to them?</p>
<p>It seems apparent that the Bountiful residents, Muslim immigrants and others wishing to practice Polygamy in Canada will need to live in Saskatchewan Canada to have legal Polygamous unions. </p>
<p>Some other provinces in Canada allow multiple conjugal unions if they occurred in a juisdiction that allows them.  Immigrants must prove their place of origin does allow Polygamy.  Since Saskatchewan Canada allows simultaneous conjugal unions it seems unfair that Muslims and others are persecuted for their Polygamist religious beliefs when it is perfectly legal in parts of Canada. Charge them all or charge none as the saying goes!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.thecourt.ca/2007/08/24/a-polygamy-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-120518</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the Libertarians, at least when it comes to adults practising polygamy.  I oppose polygmy amongst consenting adults being illegal on the grounds that the State has no place in telling consenting adults what to do in their private romantic lives.  The law is there to prevent harm, and I see very little evidence of harm coming out of Bountiful, just a bunch of people happily enjoying their lives.

Although the polygamy ban is opposed by many on religious grounds, to me it certainly doesn't have to be, and in fact I'd characterize the religious argument as secondary to the libertarian one.  To those who support the right to polygamy on religious grounds but otherwise oppose it, I ask: so does that mean that Athiest adults shouldn't have the right to love each other in their own consenting manner?  

I realize the issue is more complicated when children are involved.  To my mind, the key test should be whether the children recieve adequate levels of love, support, and education.  Is a solid foundation being provided to allow them grow up as healthy, responsible adults, just as in monogomous familes?  And of course, we ALL know how healthy and non-dysfunctional all monogomous families are, right (not)?  If the children are being loved and cared for, what exactly is the problem?

To those who scream against polygamy, I beseach you to please mind your own business.  I get so tired of hearing people compensate for their shallow lives by worrying about other peoples' private business.  Why would monogomous individuals rail with such vitrolic hate towards responsible polygamists?  I'm sorry, I just don't understand it.  Does the idea of men/women sharing their love with multiple other men/women really instigate that much hate?  

If they are opposed on religious grounds, too bad, it's a free country.  If they're opposed because they fear change to how interpersonal relationships work amongst SOME poeple, too bad, the world evolves.  Unless there is some direct, demonstrable harm, it's none of your business.  And my sentiments are shared by many fellow young people, who're tired of the contradictions they see in a system that encourages freedom, enlightenment, and rationality in some areas of life but not others.  

And if the Supreme Court lacks the courage to protect peoples' freedom to live their lives however they see fit so long as they're not hurting others - if the Court wants to uphold grouping polygamists as CRIMINALS along with murders, rapists, and fraudsters - then I say it's time for peaceful civil disobedience against a bad law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the Libertarians, at least when it comes to adults practising polygamy.  I oppose polygmy amongst consenting adults being illegal on the grounds that the State has no place in telling consenting adults what to do in their private romantic lives.  The law is there to prevent harm, and I see very little evidence of harm coming out of Bountiful, just a bunch of people happily enjoying their lives.</p>
<p>Although the polygamy ban is opposed by many on religious grounds, to me it certainly doesn&#8217;t have to be, and in fact I&#8217;d characterize the religious argument as secondary to the libertarian one.  To those who support the right to polygamy on religious grounds but otherwise oppose it, I ask: so does that mean that Athiest adults shouldn&#8217;t have the right to love each other in their own consenting manner?  </p>
<p>I realize the issue is more complicated when children are involved.  To my mind, the key test should be whether the children recieve adequate levels of love, support, and education.  Is a solid foundation being provided to allow them grow up as healthy, responsible adults, just as in monogomous familes?  And of course, we ALL know how healthy and non-dysfunctional all monogomous families are, right (not)?  If the children are being loved and cared for, what exactly is the problem?</p>
<p>To those who scream against polygamy, I beseach you to please mind your own business.  I get so tired of hearing people compensate for their shallow lives by worrying about other peoples&#8217; private business.  Why would monogomous individuals rail with such vitrolic hate towards responsible polygamists?  I&#8217;m sorry, I just don&#8217;t understand it.  Does the idea of men/women sharing their love with multiple other men/women really instigate that much hate?  </p>
<p>If they are opposed on religious grounds, too bad, it&#8217;s a free country.  If they&#8217;re opposed because they fear change to how interpersonal relationships work amongst SOME poeple, too bad, the world evolves.  Unless there is some direct, demonstrable harm, it&#8217;s none of your business.  And my sentiments are shared by many fellow young people, who&#8217;re tired of the contradictions they see in a system that encourages freedom, enlightenment, and rationality in some areas of life but not others.  </p>
<p>And if the Supreme Court lacks the courage to protect peoples&#8217; freedom to live their lives however they see fit so long as they&#8217;re not hurting others - if the Court wants to uphold grouping polygamists as CRIMINALS along with murders, rapists, and fraudsters - then I say it&#8217;s time for peaceful civil disobedience against a bad law.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
		<link>http://www.thecourt.ca/2007/08/24/a-polygamy-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-119968</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,
You don't say where you live in Canada.
Whether you can be legally the spouse of more than one person will depend on which province you live in.
In Saskatchewan you can live in as many conjugal unions at the same time as you want, without being charged with Polygamy or Bigamy. Not sure about other provinces though.
Section 51 of the Saskatchewan Family Property has been used since 1998 to allow multiple spouses to be valid under the laws of Saskatchewan. You do not need to be divorced to get or have another spouse.  Multiple spousal relationships cannot be declared void or invalid because several Saskstchewan case law precedences are already set that they are valid forms of conjugal union and an unlimited amount of them can be simultaneous. The Federal Criminal code cannot likely be invoked because there are numerous case laws in Saskatchewan to support multiple same time spouses. Judges and different Attorney Generals of Saskatchewan have already intervened in court cases and insisted that multiple spouses are 100 % legal in Saskatchewan. The Saskatchewan Party stands behind their pro-polygamy legislation via the AG office, and so do the family court judges. You will not be prosecuted for Polygamy in Sask. and if you ever were, you could point to where others were ruled legal.  You would win based on precedence. In Saskatchewan Polygamy cases the Federal Attorney General has declined to attend the court constitutionality of this law, so they allow Polygamy too in Saskatchewan.
In Winik vs. Saskatchewan Trustee (1998-2002) the judge has ruled that the existence of a existing marriage does not preclude the simultaneous existence of another simultaneous valid common law marriage. There is no limit to the number of spouses a person can have under Saskatchewan marital family law.

Obviously, if a married person can also have a different common law spouse (conjugal partners) at the same time, Bob can also have another married wife (or more) at the same time. Otherwise you could claim discrimination.

If you live or move to Saskatchewan you will be covered under Section 51 of the Saskatchewan Marriage Property Act that states "when a person becomes the spouse of a person who has an existing spouse, the rights of the subsequent spouse are subject to the rights of the first existing spouse."
All that means is that if or when you divorce your first wife, her rights will be shared with any other spouses you have at that time. 
Since it is not illegal to be married and have a different common law wife (at least in Saskatchewan), then it would also be legal to be married and have another "married" wife in a civil union in that province.
Hope this helps Bob!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
You don&#8217;t say where you live in Canada.<br />
Whether you can be legally the spouse of more than one person will depend on which province you live in.<br />
In Saskatchewan you can live in as many conjugal unions at the same time as you want, without being charged with Polygamy or Bigamy. Not sure about other provinces though.<br />
Section 51 of the Saskatchewan Family Property has been used since 1998 to allow multiple spouses to be valid under the laws of Saskatchewan. You do not need to be divorced to get or have another spouse.  Multiple spousal relationships cannot be declared void or invalid because several Saskstchewan case law precedences are already set that they are valid forms of conjugal union and an unlimited amount of them can be simultaneous. The Federal Criminal code cannot likely be invoked because there are numerous case laws in Saskatchewan to support multiple same time spouses. Judges and different Attorney Generals of Saskatchewan have already intervened in court cases and insisted that multiple spouses are 100 % legal in Saskatchewan. The Saskatchewan Party stands behind their pro-polygamy legislation via the AG office, and so do the family court judges. You will not be prosecuted for Polygamy in Sask. and if you ever were, you could point to where others were ruled legal.  You would win based on precedence. In Saskatchewan Polygamy cases the Federal Attorney General has declined to attend the court constitutionality of this law, so they allow Polygamy too in Saskatchewan.<br />
In Winik vs. Saskatchewan Trustee (1998-2002) the judge has ruled that the existence of a existing marriage does not preclude the simultaneous existence of another simultaneous valid common law marriage. There is no limit to the number of spouses a person can have under Saskatchewan marital family law.</p>
<p>Obviously, if a married person can also have a different common law spouse (conjugal partners) at the same time, Bob can also have another married wife (or more) at the same time. Otherwise you could claim discrimination.</p>
<p>If you live or move to Saskatchewan you will be covered under Section 51 of the Saskatchewan Marriage Property Act that states &#8220;when a person becomes the spouse of a person who has an existing spouse, the rights of the subsequent spouse are subject to the rights of the first existing spouse.&#8221;<br />
All that means is that if or when you divorce your first wife, her rights will be shared with any other spouses you have at that time.<br />
Since it is not illegal to be married and have a different common law wife (at least in Saskatchewan), then it would also be legal to be married and have another &#8220;married&#8221; wife in a civil union in that province.<br />
Hope this helps Bob!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.thecourt.ca/2007/08/24/a-polygamy-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-116953</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been in a Relationship with 2 wives for over 3 1/2 years now my views are if 2 guys can be married then why can`t I have 2 Wives the Governent has no business in the relationships of the people oh ya forgot we are Sheeple in Canada not People</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in a Relationship with 2 wives for over 3 1/2 years now my views are if 2 guys can be married then why can`t I have 2 Wives the Governent has no business in the relationships of the people oh ya forgot we are Sheeple in Canada not People</p>
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		<title>By: Paul McTaggart</title>
		<link>http://www.thecourt.ca/2007/08/24/a-polygamy-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-91279</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul McTaggart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any reason the Charter couldn't be changed to make it clear that religious rights are subject to the law of the land?  In other words, I don't see a reason why it couldn't be tweaked to firmly establish the principle that religious rights are limited and secondary to secular law.  No religious group should be able to break the law and get away with it.  What about human sacrifices?  Why not bring them back?  We have to draw the line somewhere.  One law for all.

Furthermore, religious groups should not have any rights that non-believers don't also have.  We show far too much respect for religion in this country.

http://paulmct.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/showdown-law-of-the-land-vs-gods-law/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any reason the Charter couldn&#8217;t be changed to make it clear that religious rights are subject to the law of the land?  In other words, I don&#8217;t see a reason why it couldn&#8217;t be tweaked to firmly establish the principle that religious rights are limited and secondary to secular law.  No religious group should be able to break the law and get away with it.  What about human sacrifices?  Why not bring them back?  We have to draw the line somewhere.  One law for all.</p>
<p>Furthermore, religious groups should not have any rights that non-believers don&#8217;t also have.  We show far too much respect for religion in this country.</p>
<p><a href="http://paulmct.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/showdown-law-of-the-land-vs-gods-law/" rel="nofollow">http://paulmct.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/showdown-law-of-the-land-vs-gods-law/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bricker</title>
		<link>http://www.thecourt.ca/2007/08/24/a-polygamy-primer/comment-page-1/#comment-23640</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bricker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems British Columbia A-G Wally Oppal has backed off the reference idea. Instead, he's asked yet another special prosecutor for a review (the umpteenth requested by the province) of the constitutionality of the Criminal Code's polygamy provisions:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070908.NATS08-1/TPStory/National</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems British Columbia A-G Wally Oppal has backed off the reference idea. Instead, he&#8217;s asked yet another special prosecutor for a review (the umpteenth requested by the province) of the constitutionality of the Criminal Code&#8217;s polygamy provisions:</p>
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